Well deserved indeed & Good luck

Hopefully this isnt premature (erm immature) but im coming too

Cya on the track

Quote from Bean0 :

The TBO servers were best when you had an increased points multiplier for the harder/slower cars IMO.

You had your regular load of FXOs, but also those who were going for big points in the XRT and RB4...it made the racing more interesting, especially when you could get the jump off the line in XRT/RB4 and have to spend the whole race fighting off a swarm of FXO drivers.

Spot on

Maybe a little tweaking with how race grids are formed from previous race results also, perhaps it could work again

I am not overly familar with the technical side of the systems used for CTRA servers , but i do miss a regular TBO server.

Sorry to disagree with you on this sam, but the way i see it TBO on XTRA2 was very popular then the new car/s came and interest logically dwindled.
Now to spark interest you have had some good events and have "toyed" with the TBO by adding different classes, but ultimately this is just a gimmick , which is obvious, represnted by the influx of visitors.
CTRA2 just needs to establish itself again as a place where clean good TBO racing can grow again. I'm sure i speak for an alienated minority ( long time TBO fans ) that have been subject to these mixed class ideas (which are fun but should be left for an event server/league) and the tweaking of the balancing in the TBO class that scawen has changed from LFS S2q-y.
What i do find surpising that you, seem to think the balancing has no effect .... come on now .. even coming from the FWD side of the TBO table, i know for a fact that many XRT racers just stopped due to it being so far out.
Also id like to just add that its just not CTRA Race2 server that i see this problem of lack of TBO racers. Infact i see more that TBO has become split. XRT only servers RB4 only servers and of course FXO.

Im not saying that having the mixed server wasnt a good thing to try , maybe its a good start. I think also its the down to the cycle of LFS users , a cycle from old to new , the newer generation perhaps more more inclinded to racing the S2 cars

All i know that TBO has been on a steady decline for a while.

Quote from SamH :

Nope, it was empty for months while it was TBO. It only saw life again when we added LRF to it. It's still not busy now, but it's a hell of a lot busier than when it was TBO only.

and you dont think that had anything to do with balancing issues ?

CTRA2 is no longer popular because its not TBO

simple fact.

Im even quite sure that the way CTRA have toyed with the TBO has created hte decline of this server, first it was mixed with UF1 now its LRF ... and you are wondering why its less popular.

Perhaps run LFS in a window and monitor CPU/system/resources/load ?

This is a benchmark for LFS , is relatively simple to follow.

http://lfsbench.iron.eu.org/?c=completemax

People seem to forget how much the AI drains CPU time.
Compare the high detail setting to the min.

http://lfsbench.iron.eu.org/?c=completemin

Up north round here, a gripper is someone who breaks legs for fun, or it can be a butch female. Both are pretty scary

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Hello, I have just bought my friends Acer Asipre 3600 laptop, and when I was done cleaning all the viruses out, a message popped up on startup saying, "Error loading C:\Windows\system32\icijfapv.dll

The specific module could not be found".

Sounds like the remnants of the LOPvirus or variant/

Simple fix is edit the registry, you'll find it in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
it some form of ADhijack afiak, i had problem with a machine just this last week with the same thing.

It looks like you have killed the virus but have traces of functions of its operating proccedure.

interesting points made throughout the discussion as i skipped thourgh the posts, which reminded me to post my contribution, a film The Man From Earth

Thinking about it a bit more, It could be useful commenting system
It just with the amount of Hotlaps uploaded, would this create a problem ? maybe hotlaps for that get WR or within the top 10 could have somthing. Like i say im not sure how this would affect operation of LFSWorld or complexity to incoperate, but as Victor is planning/working on new LFSworld features or whole site maybe it wont be such a bad idea after all.

Quote from Woz :

there already is? And it hides cruse servers by default!

L F S W o r l d > http://www.lfsworld.net/

Perhaps Add a "Cruise" Filter to Racers & Hosts Online ?

I thought you would of made the switch years ago

I'm also in the researching stage of perhaps relocating to somewhere in the Nordic reigons, I'm leaning towards the prospect of Estonia, who knows , my timeframe for this is 2010-ish.
Anyhow its a great thread , and surely it will be an interesting journey of life, all the best of luck with phase 2 and beyond.

You can type a message in the SPR , and PM works fine in LFSWorld, and chatterbox, and also racing online & of course these forums. If you want to perhaps ask the hotlapper for a set or just curious how long was spent on that particular lap, just ask.

Sorry Hyperactive nice idea, but personally for me, doesnt really warrant the work involved imo. And i think the majority of people uploading the hotlaps wouldnt use the system. However i could be worng and it could turn out to be useful .... who knows

*fixed

In the late Xpatch era , the restrictions were doing "ok" but the FXO lacked acceleration a fraction, maybe its still to early to be really sure what needs modifying on this particular class with the changes that have taken place, as its been just over a month since the introduction of Version Y.
I do think there are a lot of fast racers out there who have yet to hotlap the XRT or RB4 (where is biggie?) So basing results from hotlapping and racing is a little premature just yet, but the obvious signs are there.
I think i remember scawen mentioning the curret temp/wear model isnt really that accurate. Maybe when the next phase/patch comes perhaps the issue of temp/wear will be a non-issue along with balancing in the TBO class.


Has FXO killed the TBO star ?
Will the XRT make it to the next Episode in one piece ?
And will the RB4 ever find love ....

Last edited by Gener_AL (UK), Fri 25 Jan 2008, 23:14.

Gotta agree with op, maybe its been requested before big deal, no need to act insane dustin, and whats this ? FXO is a noobcar? .... ok in that case they all are, they all goverened by the code in place, are they not ? ... the problem with people (myself included) is that they are limited by themsleves sometimes, you hear what im saying ?

Some times dustin in life you gotta listen to what people tell you to do. As most things in life its all about timing, and this thread for me is outa time.

Just to add to what i mentioned earlier regarding server balancing , i noticed this thread for those interested.

I would consider a little more the 30kg , at least weight of a passenger (is the wieght of this documented anywhere) somewhere between 55-80kg i think would even things up a lot.

The FXO needs more weight for sure , , more reduction in tyre width im not so sure about as it is nigh on impossible to keep cool as it stands at the moment on some track layouts.

The RB4 and XRT however are shaping up nicely which is reflected in the Hotlap table and in my experience of racing online.

I just started work on the XRT rank, one thing for sure its still a bad ass car to drive, some tracks are hell
FE2 is driving me insane at the moment (hotlapping)

If i had my own server capable of hosting 20+ id suggest a Balance test for experienced drivers in TBO. (10 min races+ 30 min races)

I would say the FXO has to lose perhaps 0.75s-1.00s (max) per 1 minute any more and the FXO would never catch up off the start.

TBO
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Last edited by Gener_AL (UK), Sun 6 Jan 2008, 11:45. Reason : supasized

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Havent got one anymore, used to have a cat, he was 18 years old when he died, a week ago

Sad to hear, hope you find another friend soon

Heres my feline friend, old picture, but captures her usual mood well.

no i mean in LFS , just make another driver

A much easier way is just create 2 driver profiles , one for road , one for formula , that way you wont have to reconfig everytime